Buyer asks for money back

[genuinefunkaar]

Hi

For the first time since my time here.

Im facing a strange situation, need advice.



First i decide with the buyer over messages about what he wants.

He wants me to make the pictures he gave me high res and rewrite all the text on it again.



I do that, which took two complete days, and i send him the high res files and the working files.



Now he updates saying, the image is high res, and the text is rewritten but the quality is not good, and I could have done it myself etc. I need my money back.



Any suggestions as to what Im supposed to do now?

or what I should do



Thanks

[jamesbulls]

Chalk it up to a scammer-buyer and send him on his way. If you don’t cancel the order, he’ll leave a negative review and then also complain to customer service who’ll refund his order. Cut him loose and don’t do business with him again.

[ardicus]

Well two choices…

1. Risk getting a negative review by the buyer, or even cancellation if its in late status
   
2. Submit a cancellation before its too late for a mutual cancellation…
   
   
   
   I would bite the bullet this time and cancel it, make a claim on your description that all sales are final… but you offer so many modifications.
   
   
   
   Unless of course you can make the picture even better then try that first.

[ardicus]

Reply to @jamesbulls:



On this note, he could try to complain, but you can start the process to customer service yourself showing proof you sent the final product to them as ordered and they will flag him if he complains. This will make it hard for him to get reimbursed.

[landongrace]

It is painful, but it is going to happen. You probably do really good work, so it is probably not your work. This buyer is not a good match with you and that is OK.



You have 2 options. Offer a mutual cancellation and probably not receive negative feedback, or not offer a refund and have a forced refund with negative feedback.



I would always prefer to give a refund and keep my ratings.



This has happened to me about 6 times in 1100 projects. Sometimes it’s $5.00 and it’s easy. sometimes it’s $250.00 and it’s more painful. I try to not let new customers order big projects on there first few orders. This helps the risk factor.



In the end I am confident in what I provide, I show clear examples of what my deliveries will be, and I think people should love the work or they shouldn’t pay for it.



It’s a big step for them to mutually cancel an order. At that point I won’t be able to do future work with them and if they like my work, that is not in their best interest.



Unfortunately, it’s not about the effort you put in it. It’s about if they like it are they able to use it.

[hdlogodesigner]

This is So Painful but its is going to Happen.

Refund him his money, Negative review will decrease the buyers.

[landongrace]

Reply to @landongrace: I know there is potential for scammers. In 1100 orders I just haven’t seen it myself. Maybe I vet them before they order? I don’t know what it is? I do turn down about 25% of requests before orders are even placed. I can read a script and notes and know what will work for me and what won’t.



I have not looked at your gig, so this is not directed towards you. It is really easy to setup a gig, but it take alot more skill to provide a good product and service. I have seen people say before that it’s just $5.00. That’s not true. You have to treat it like it’s the last $5.00 they have. That’s how they perceive it.

[genuinefunkaar]

Another thing I forgot to tell is that

He ordered two gigs, one of $45 and the other of $5

On the very first day he ordered, I delivered two files and asked if that was what he was looking for, he didnt reply untill today.

and what has happened is that, the gig with $45 got automatically complete, through the 3 days formula. hes communicating with me through the one $5 gig.



I hope Im clear?

[genuinefunkaar]

Reply to @hdlogodesigner:

Alright, Im ready to refund. but how can i when the order has been marked complete?

[genuinefunkaar]

Reply to @jamesbulls:

I don’t mind, refunding

but the order has been marked complete??

[landongrace]

Start the mutual cancellation on the $5.00 open order.



Write in the general message to your customer that you want to mutually cancel both orders and list the order numbers. You are communicating to the customer, but you are also giving text, that CS can easily see in your dialog with the customer. Let the customer know you are contacting CS to process the mutually cancellations. Then start a ticket with CS and they will be able to do it after it has posted complete. I had one that we mutually cancelled more than 30 days after it posted. I didn’t have to. For me, it was just the right thing to do.

[turnkeyz]

I guess for such jobs, it is recommended to watermark the images/pics and get confirmed by the buyer if the work is acceptable or not. On agreeing you can deliver the image removing watermarks.

[kay2809]

Reply to @turnkeyz: Buyers are easily offended by that.

[sexygirl18]

Reply to @kay2809: so what, if they are a serious buyer they will realise that it’s simply business. Why be offended if you plan on paying and receiving the full product at the end? It’s the dodgy ones that are probably offended.

[kay2809]

Reply to @sexygirl18: I tried it already. This was my experience. One even cancelled the order because of this.

[blackfolder1]

Reply to @kay2809: If he cancelled the order because of THAT, he probably was a scammer and would have cancelled anyway.

[ardicus]

You can still cancel the order for him… see attached:



go to your dropdown when mouse on name;

Click "manage sales"

Click "completed"

Click on the gig you want canceled

Click "Resolution Center"

Fill out the cancellation form and submit it

[philtabest]

Reply to @blackfolder1: Has anyone thought of putting a notification on the gig to say that all orders initially come watermarked? That way, at least the buyer knows before ordering. If I was a buyer, I would be pretty shocked getting a watermarked image at the end without warning.

[sexygirl18]

Reply to @philtabest: what’s shocking about a proof being watermarked? In the end you get the full, un-watermarked file anyway.

[abidagfx]

Best Tip for you and other sellers. Before the final work delivery think from the buyer’s point of view if happy and satisfied with your own work and you think ‘’ it was useful for you if it was done for you by any other seller’’ then its good you can deliver it. if you are not satisfied with the work make it more better. if you happy with all your work with buyers point of view then it ok deliver him, all after this if buyer is not satisfied and saying for refund what we can do, simply refund him… its good than hi place bad feedback… bad feed back can reduce your orders and make other buyer think twice before buy from you…

[hdlogodesigner]

@genuinefunkaar

For the $45 You got lucky and he cant do nothing but try to make mutual Cancellation for the $5. DID he review his order of $45 ?

[genuinefunkaar]

Reply to @hdlogodesigner:

Well someone suggested that I still return the 45 and I was ready.



I just messaged him saying that, we didnt agree on what you are blaming me for.

He then replied that " you are right, I checked our conversation and that im sorry for being rude. he then gave me an extra $10. lol

[genuinefunkaar]

Salam everyone



The issue got solved!



I told the buyer that we had not agreed on what you are blaming me for, if you see our conversation.



He probably did that and then apologized for being rude, he also gave me an extra $10.



Thanks alot all



Mustafa

[kay2809]

Good to see that the buyer turned out to be supportive. It’s not every day we get to see this.