If you are not a fiverr customer service guy, you probably is like me. I believe it works one way, you believe it works another way.
The same reason I believe wouldn’t have a forum to people just chat and announce news.
Exactly. The reason I became the best seller in a category. But I’m not talking about this, but fiverr marketplace only.
Today (July 3rd 2018) is not like this. Take a look at fiverr marketplace and you will see that new/mediocre gigs are topping the best placements. So these low performed are on top. Better take a look first.
Again, the reason I became the best seller in a category.
Please Jon, you always come with the same talk, which in this case there is nothing to do with the reason of this post. I didn’t open this because having sales or not, but because the ridiculous ranking it became since today. By manipulating buyers to believe that low performed gigs are the best sellers at fiverr. It’s not go to me, to you, to anyone else, even fiverr itself.
I repeat, I’m not complaining about having orders or not, but because this ridiculous ranking at the moment. If fiverr wouldn’t be lost, they wouldn’t be changing placements every single month over 15 months now.
Keep in mind that Fiverr promotes individual gigs through direct mail, newsletters, blog posts, ads and so much more. The site rankings aren’t the only thing that determines how much exposure Fiverr is getting you.
Even though the site ranking does shift around it doesn’t change the fact that Fiverr is still actively promoting your services off-site.
This is an open forum, if you’re “TIRED” of @jonbaas making reasonable arguments then i’m “VERY TIRED” of constantly having to read whiny posts like this.
I am also a seller who earned a lot more before these changes,had more orders a day.
I was working 13h a day.
But I like to think this way,sellers with high quality work will stay,hence the ‘amateur’ ones will quit sooner or later.
Quality is the most important thing in every type of job.
I know this. I receive these kind of mails too, for example.
But I will repeat. I’m not talking about promotions, but about fiverr marketplace ONLY. There is a difference.
Actually I’m not tired. it may not look like this, but I like to discuss with people. There is always something to lean, but in this case his comment there is nothing to do with this post. And since it’s an open forum I’m open to say this, right?
and I’ll repeat AGAIN: there is nothing to do with self promotion and orders, but about fiverr marketplace ONLY.
The only sellers who feel this impact are those who were on top and are being drag down, and those who were in the pages behind and then suddenly are on top of searches. Those in the middle probably didn’t noticed this.
I’m also a buyer, and everyday is becoming harder to find better gigs. But who matter with buyers opinion, right?
my best month (May 2018), my gig went from the top of ranking to the end of the second page.
I already made a research with new buyers (over 4 months), asking them how they got to me. 90% of them came to fiverr site and then research for a buyer.
From these 90%, half through keyword search, other half by browsing category rankings.
Only 10% came to fiverr due self promotions.
People think that fiverr is only about self promotion and etc, but it’s not. Most of new buyers come to fiverr and then look for their sellers, and “I’m fighting” because I want be fairly able to get these buyers.
AGAIN, the best promotion to a seller is their placement. If some day you get to the top (due to your performance, or by having lucky), you will understand what I’m talking about.
And like I said before, this best selling filter manipulation is misleading buyers to believe that low performed gigs are the real best sellers, while the true best sellers were hidden some pages behind.
By the way, if you research for a keyword (like VECTOR), you will see that the RELEVANCE results in search are different from BEST SELLING (search), but are similar with BEST SELLING at category ranking.
So 15 months have passed, I vaguely remember having a discussion with you about that way back then. It’s clear now and has been for at least a year, you can’t rely on Fiverr to give you sales, ranking, income, or anything else. While I simply had a different opinion to you 15 months ago, 15 months on I just can’t relate to you at all.
Why would you not change how you manage your business when it became clear that Fiverr was unreliable as a source of income/sales?
Besides, you go on about how someone with lots of reviews must be a great seller and those with few are mediocre - It is simply not the case. Some of the complaints we see here are about sellers with tens of thousands of reviews. Number of reviews has a little to do with quality of service but not as much as you seem to think.
Sorry but you are wrong with your last sentence.
How does number of reviews have a little to do with quality.
For example if seller provides poor work he wont get to lets say 2000 reviews just like that.
If you think Fiverr is giving anything away, then you must be lucky. This is a business site, not a charity site or an educational site. It’s possible to run a successful business on Fiverr and that’s been proven since the beginning. It hasn’t changed. It’s easy to fail as well.
If someone does 2000 $5 logos, they get 2000 reviews - it means they provided logos worth around $5.
If someone does 100 $100 logos, they get 100 reviews - it means they provided logos worth around $100.
Rob Janoff has 3 reviews. He created the Apple logo and many other top brands. His price is $10k.
Which of these 3 sellers would I be more likely to buy from for my own business?
Well, I couldn’t afford Janoff, so I would likely go for the guy with 100 reviews and definitely wouldn’t go for the $5 one.
You can still see who gives a quality product and who does not,no matter the price.
My point is,someone who does cheap work,or copypaste someone elses wont get to large amount of reviews.
Someone who has quality,will get to a large amount of reviews. For sure. So its not that reviews dont matter.
We went offtopic a bit I think hahaha
Exactly. It’e being 15 months of having certain earnings, and then the next month just 50%. and then next being the best month and next the worst.
Before these 15 months I was just growing. A little each month but growing.
Honestly, I would prefer earning less than I earn at fiverr but being sure that my earnings will depend only on my performance, than earning more but depend on fiverr developing team mood.
Like I said before, I’m just seeking for a fair marketplace, nothing else. Giving placement to a seller won’t make them a good seller. They may have more sales, because the exposure, but these could also be bad sellers.
I’m sorry by the misunderstanding, but sometimes I don’t know how to express myself. When I sai mediocre, is only about a gig performance.
BEST SELLING should be used for best selling gigs. Beside this it’s only misleading buyers. And it’s only good for those sellers who were placed on top, not for those who “earned” the top placements.
Well, a gig with 22k reviews and 5 stars median seems for me to have a better quality than a gig with only 22 reviews and 5 stars. The first one proved to maintain the high standards over so many orders, while the second is a doubt yet.
I’ll repeat again, this is about the misleading buyers to believe that Best Selling are those low performed. If you ask right now to fiverr CS how placement works, they will answer the same answer as always (which it depends on gigs performance and etc), but right now it’s not like this.
When I go to an online market and I look for the best sellers, I want the best selling results, not random result.
The only filter that seems to work properly today is NEWEST ARRIVALS.
I’m just frustrated for being limited at fiverr marketplace. Like I said, I don’t mind people get helped, since it doesn’t prejudice someone else.
I change my gigs on a regular basis so the gigs themselves have very few reviews. As a seller, I have over 400, just not on those gigs.
Added - but I guess 400ish reviews just isn’t anywhere near enough to be classed as a successful seller amongst all of those with thousands of reviews, so I’ll take myself off and be ‘mediocre’ elsewhere. It’s funny how it’s the ‘successful’ ones who are complaining.
Yes I’m kind of lucky, because I lucky joined fiverr and made my reputation before these crazy changes.
As I keep repeating, this is a business stie, they can to what they want, But I’m 100% sure that misleading buyers to believe that a 22 reviews gig which is now on top is the best seller, and not that gig with 22,00 reviews which just was drag many pages behind.
The best sellers used to be on top for some reason, their performance. These were able to attract more buyers because it’s placement (better placement = better exposure = better chance to sell).
Today, sellers are on top of best selling just for no reason, because best sellers they arent. They may be good workers, but not best sellers (yet).
The Fiverr ranking system has never been particularly reliable as a sole-source of views or orders. I haven’t had good ranking in ages and I eventually stopped even looking because i’m making sales, getting regular buyers and doing fine regardless. I’m not say that there is one solution (like the often-mentioned social media self-promotion) but too much emphasis on ranking is just flat useless. Complaining about it on the forum is less than useless unless it just makes you feel good somehow.
I understand your theory about better placement. It hasn’t been true for me. I seem to do well by a combination of keyword searches and word of mouth when my target audience buyers send me their friends. If you enjoy the attempt to force round pegs through square holes, though, I’m glad for you. You seem to pop in on the forum to talk about it regularly though it’s never been reliable, so I’ll leave you to that now.
The price of gigs HAS A LOOOOT to do with countries economy.
by the way you can find many $100 gigs with lower rates then $5 gigs.
Price isn’t meaning of quality. it’s just about how a seller value it’s job.
ALSO, I could just change my 6000 reviews gig to $500 right now. It doesn’t mean I did 6000 sales of $500 each. Like I just spotted a gig with 500 reviews at Logo Design category, but I knew that gig was familiar, and then when I looked int it’s URL I realized it was from Vector Tracing category (an old competitor) lol