capitalquality Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I’ve noticed an interesting phenomenon.This year, I paused all my time-eating gigs. You know the ones - you quote for 4 hours work for $100 and it turns into 2 days work for $100. I stopped them because the time I spent on them was unpredictable and my hourly rate was appalling once you added in all the time taken to get the requirements down pat, then answering questions on the delivery. It was thankless and stressful to be honest.This year, I’m focussing on work I can quantify: short, sharp, sweet deliveries. Place order-do work-deliver. Bang. Done.And what I’ve noticed is that I’m getting a lot more tips. I love tips, but I never mention them or push for them or hint to buyers that they should leave one. Buyers on bigger projects, those time-eaters, rarely leave tips. I guess they figure it’s cost them so much already. But people paying $5, and have me throw in an extra improvement or something I noticed that took me 5 minutes maybe on top of their gig, are happy to leave a tip. Maybe it’s only another $5 but still.In summary, my advice is chunk your gigs up smaller, not make them bigger. The hourly rate is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychicbunny Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I’ve had a hard time noticing the pattern of tips in my gigs. The best selling gig I have is my telepathy gig and I’ve been getting a ton of tips and gig extras through that gigs in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzie88 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I can relate to that, most of my tips come from $5 orders. The quality of the work always makes the buyer to tip even 8 times the total cost of the Logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahemme Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 interesting to see a correlation between more tips on less expensive gigs. I find I’ve been tipped on orders big and small, however I only seem to get a tip when I really out-do and over deliver. I find I can only do this when the content suits me personally (voiceovers) and the script is written well, and I really take it on and bring it to life.However, I’ve found I’ve wasted so much effort going way beyond what was needed for a 5.00 order to impress them in hopes of repeat business, referrals, tips etc, that I just stopped going above and beyond, and just delivering exactly what was needed.So for me, tips only seem to come when the content matches my voice/personality the most, and I am able to really bring it to life.sort of off topic, but I recently switched to packages on my main gig to try it out, and orders have slowed waaaay down. so thus, tips slowing waaay down too. I’m a little disheartened by it given how much people have had good experiences, but I think it’s just not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uxreview Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 One of the reason is that if a seller does the job for $10 and it’s clear that they went an extra mile, then it’s likely to get a tip. I’ve tipped sellers myself because I felt bad for paying only $5 for an awesome service 🙂However, if you’re charging $100 for something, then it’s not so easy to impress the customer because often they think that they are already paying enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don’t know, when it comes to tips it is SO random.Sometimes I get big tips for a big gig, big tips for small gigs, and then basic and small, butstill pleasant tips. Not sure what controls the flow!!The spice must flow…OK, how many people got that 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaisefaint Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don’t know, when it comes to tips it is SO random.Sometimes I get big tips for a big gig, big tips for small gigs, and then basic and small, butstill pleasant tips. Not sure what controls the flow!!The spice must flow…OK, how many people got that 😅I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.I will face my fear.I will permit it to pass over me and through me.And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.Only I will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miiila Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don’t know, when it comes to tips it is SO random.Sometimes I get big tips for a big gig, big tips for small gigs, and then basic and small, butstill pleasant tips. Not sure what controls the flow!!The spice must flow…OK, how many people got that 😅Shh, hush, Zeus, don´t talk about spice, we don´t want to see you banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silberma1976 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Shh, hush, Zeus, don´t talk about spice, we don´t want to see you banned.Interesting observation. I find that tips come when buyers seem to have had very low expectations for what they would get from Fiverr or they had a smaller vision of what to expect, and I over delivered on that faster than expected. So, high quality seems to get tips. I do not find $5 gigs getting tipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgodknows Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don’t know, when it comes to tips it is SO random.Sometimes I get big tips for a big gig, big tips for small gigs, and then basic and small, butstill pleasant tips. Not sure what controls the flow!!The spice must flow…OK, how many people got that 😅The spice must flow…Dune…p.sThe reason smaller amounts get more tips, because the buyer most probably has a higher budget associated for that gig, but since they get it at a lower price and see the end product in fact is of quality, they then include the total ACTUAL budget as tip to the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Shh, hush, Zeus, don´t talk about spice, we don´t want to see you banned.OH NO THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM!!! 😨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miiila Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 OH NO THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM!!! 😨Don´t worry, nobody will notice it because there´s no Pewdiepie in the thread title 😉Also, well it´s a virtual uh spice only, don´t think that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalquality Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 The spice must flow…Dune…p.sThe reason smaller amounts get more tips, because the buyer most probably has a higher budget associated for that gig, but since they get it at a lower price and see the end product in fact is of quality, they then include the total ACTUAL budget as tip to the gig.This is what I think. They thought they’d have to pay $10 so if they get quality work for $5 & then they get a little unexpected extra too, it’s much easier for them to want to pay the extra $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgodknows Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 This is what I think. They thought they’d have to pay $10 so if they get quality work for $5 & then they get a little unexpected extra too, it’s much easier for them to want to pay the extra $5.Yes, Ditto… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpharoh Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 that’s was my thought when i started today but to get your first orders you need to decrease your time rate to nearly nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalquality Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 interesting to see a correlation between more tips on less expensive gigs. I find I’ve been tipped on orders big and small, however I only seem to get a tip when I really out-do and over deliver. I find I can only do this when the content suits me personally (voiceovers) and the script is written well, and I really take it on and bring it to life.However, I’ve found I’ve wasted so much effort going way beyond what was needed for a 5.00 order to impress them in hopes of repeat business, referrals, tips etc, that I just stopped going above and beyond, and just delivering exactly what was needed.So for me, tips only seem to come when the content matches my voice/personality the most, and I am able to really bring it to life.sort of off topic, but I recently switched to packages on my main gig to try it out, and orders have slowed waaaay down. so thus, tips slowing waaay down too. I’m a little disheartened by it given how much people have had good experiences, but I think it’s just not for me.I had a look at your packages because as you say, others (including my) experience is different. I got a bit confused by the word count options in the gig description. Does that mean no-one can directly order your packages but they have to get a custom quote? Are there any words included in the packages? I don’t know if people aren’t ordering your packages because they’re confused or not but could you have Basic includes up to 75 words, standard includes up to 100 words etc. then have an extra for each additional 75 words (make the number of words in the extra the same across all packages)?Also is “5.00”=$5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina_riley2 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Since we’re on the topic, question in regards to gratuity.Let’s say I accept a gig. 29 days later, I have some money laying around, so I decide to go back and give a tip, does that affect your withdrawal date? Would it be better if I were to just buy another gig and say this is your tip?I would really, really like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miiila Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Since we’re on the topic, question in regards to gratuity.Let’s say I accept a gig. 29 days later, I have some money laying around, so I decide to go back and give a tip, does that affect your withdrawal date? Would it be better if I were to just buy another gig and say this is your tip?I would really, really like to know.Hm, good question, but the option exists for 7 days only apparently, so I guess that´s to get it in line with the 14/7 days we have to wait for our revenue anyway:The tip option will stay open for seven days after the order is complete.The tip will clear at the same time of the order. Also, if an order is cancelled, the tip will be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina_riley2 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Hm, good question, but the option exists for 7 days only apparently, so I guess that´s to get it in line with the 14/7 days we have to wait for our revenue anyway:The tip option will stay open for seven days after the order is complete.The tip will clear at the same time of the order. Also, if an order is cancelled, the tip will be cancelled.Shucks! I thought I had 29 days. 😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahemme Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I had a look at your packages because as you say, others (including my) experience is different. I got a bit confused by the word count options in the gig description. Does that mean no-one can directly order your packages but they have to get a custom quote? Are there any words included in the packages? I don’t know if people aren’t ordering your packages because they’re confused or not but could you have Basic includes up to 75 words, standard includes up to 100 words etc. then have an extra for each additional 75 words (make the number of words in the extra the same across all packages)?Also is “5.00”=$5?I see where you’re coming from. At the bottom of each package there is a space for you to enter your word count, and if you put your cursor there it has info about how many words are included.Perhaps it’s too confusing to re-iterate in the description about the pricing, and just let people look at the package instead? That’s why I have the ‘(please enter in your total word count when ordering for accurate price calculation)’ blurb.And yes, 5.00 was $5. I thought it was clearer with the former, but maybe that’s just me, I’d be open to changing it to just the $ sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miiila Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Shucks! I thought I had 29 days. 😔 Your idea with the buying another gig though isn´t bad for that I guess. Just put a doc with “Thank you for your good work the last time” as required attachment or such.I had been thinking about adding a tip-gig when someone talked about it and after the last discussion on that and your comment too, but I always had felt weird about that and had told myself I´ll do it once I´ll have written a short story as pdf to ‘sell’ with the tip-gig, and translated it myself 😉 something funny, for a buyer who´d want to tip retrospectively but also useful as a kind of sample, but I didn´t get around to it yet. Had a nice idea already too what to write, but I´m too perfectionist with my writing, so I put it off because I know it will take me too long lol.If you really want to do something good to a seller with a tip though, I´m certain they won´t mind whichever way you do it, and as pointed out several times already, for many it´s even more the acknowledgement than the additional money, even though that´s nice too of course. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalquality Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 I see where you’re coming from. At the bottom of each package there is a space for you to enter your word count, and if you put your cursor there it has info about how many words are included.Perhaps it’s too confusing to re-iterate in the description about the pricing, and just let people look at the package instead? That’s why I have the ‘(please enter in your total word count when ordering for accurate price calculation)’ blurb.And yes, 5.00 was $5. I thought it was clearer with the former, but maybe that’s just me, I’d be open to changing it to just the $ signAh, I didn’t see the enter the word count thing. I did read your description as I’d have to pay extra and thought the word count when ordering was going to come up as a requirement when I actually ordered. My view is it’d be clearer without the wording in the description for the word count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina_riley2 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (post withdrawn by author, will be automatically deleted in 24 hours unless flagged)@blaisefaint:Dear Blaise,As always, thank you for the info, but I’ve given over 50 tips during my tenure on Fiverr. I am very aware how it works on the buyers side. I was curious on how it worked on sellers side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgodknows Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 @blaisefaint:Dear Blaise,As always, thank you for the info, but I’ve given over 50 tips during my tenure on Fiverr. I am very aware how it works on the buyers side. I was curious on how it worked on sellers side.but I’ve given over 50 tipsI am not one of those recipient…😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina_riley2 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 but I’ve given over 50 tipsI am not one of those recipient…😢Dear DJ,I still ❤️ you. It’s just that I do not need any of your awesome gigs – yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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