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These days, I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr…

Soon… we’ll all be working for free! Because those Bloody buyers will only take all the samples they get and send it over to the Original job owners and get paid Huge amounts of Money for doing absolutely Nothing!

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order. Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology. Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

I’ve had a very recent experience that is really making me MAD at myself and I have promised myself that I will never allow any buyer to do this to me again.

If you want to see a sample design… show commitment too… even if it’s going to be a $10 commitment for an $100 gig!

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before? Kindly share and let’s all learn how we can stop these leechers from taking our intellectual properties and make millions out of it for free!

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On 10/5/2017 at 3:46 AM, graphics_pro360 said:

Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology.

They are only buyers if they actually buy.

Why waste several hours? Just tell them that you don’t offer free custom samples, and that they need to place the order. You can also mention that Fiverr strongly advises sellers never to start working until an actual order is placed. If they keep trying to convince you, just ignore them. 

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On 10/5/2017 at 3:55 AM, graphics_pro360 said:

I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr

Yes, last week 4 buyer contact me and requested to do free works. I think they aren’t genuine. Potential buyers always pay $5 and request a sample.

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No one asking for free work will ever convert into a buyer you will have any kind of rewarding experience with in the long-term.

Even when people ask to see samples of writing which I have completed previously, I will only oblige such requests if:

  • The expected total of a minimum order will amount to $50 -$60 plus

  • The buyer has been using Fiverr for over a year

  • The buyer communicates in a way which tells me that they are likely a native English speaker

Anyone who doesn’t meet these requirements isn’t asking for a sample to check for quality. They are looking for a sample which they can use to present as their own to their own clients.

As for any other free work, I get trapped into doing more than I should on a daily basis by people placing orders and directly requesting more than they have paid for. In this case, working for free without an order in place is just madness.

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They are not the type of buyers you want anyway. A relationship that starts off without trust and with one side trying to get something for nothing from the other is always going to end badly, whether in business, on Fiverr or life in general. Tell them it’s not happening and walk away. Spread this word to the rest of Fiverr!

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These days, I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr…

Soon… we’ll all be working for free! Because those Bloody buyers will only take all the samples they get and send it over to the Original job owners and get paid Huge amounts of Money for doing absolutely Nothing!

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order. Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology. Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

I’ve had a very recent experience that is really making me MAD at myself and I have promised myself that I will never allow any buyer to do this to me again.

If you want to see a sample design… show commitment too… even if it’s going to be a $10 commitment for an $100 gig!

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before? Kindly share and let’s all learn how we can stop these leechers from taking our intellectual properties and make millions out of it for free!

Thanks

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before?

No because I’m not a pushover.

After 2500 orders you’re still giving out free samples, why? You should have learned by now which users are worth your time and which aren’t.

Soon… we’ll all be working for free!

Nope, my design mockups cost $50 and all my clients have paid for it before ordering a complete website. I don’t see a reason why I would give out free samples to anyone. In fact, I will probably raise it again in a month or so to focus more on high paying customers.

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Ha! Yeah I had a cold message once being like “hey, so i need a book ghost written. You will write 1-2 chapters for free as a sample before I submit the full order. Keep in mind you are up against 10 other sellers who are competing for this job. If I like you, then I will use you.”

I actually went back to him and politely told him I wasn’t interested in his offer and I don’t work for free. He got mad, which is typical of this kind of “buyer”. I told him what was stopping him from approaching many sellers saying “You will write chapters 1-2, You will write 3-4 and so on and so forth” until his whole project has been done for free. I’d laugh at any finished product - with so many styles of writing it will read like someone who had no idea what they were doing! Hahaha!

He told me I “just didn’t get his project” I was like “Nah I just don’t think you get how being a BUYER works.”

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Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology.

They are only buyers if they actually buy.

Why waste several hours? Just tell them that you don’t offer free custom samples, and that they need to place the order. You can also mention that Fiverr strongly advises sellers never to start working until an actual order is placed. If they keep trying to convince you, just ignore them.

They are only buyers if they actually buy.

No one asking for free work will ever convert into a buyer

trying to get something for nothing from the other is always going to end badly,

and I don’t work for free

Hum, is there a common theme, here?!? :thinking:

I buy tons of articles/writing gigs and a good amount of proofing gigs with a dabbling of other things. I have never asked for a free sample.

If I want to “test” a seller, I order a $5 gig.

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These days, I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr…

Soon… we’ll all be working for free! Because those Bloody buyers will only take all the samples they get and send it over to the Original job owners and get paid Huge amounts of Money for doing absolutely Nothing!

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order. Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology. Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

I’ve had a very recent experience that is really making me MAD at myself and I have promised myself that I will never allow any buyer to do this to me again.

If you want to see a sample design… show commitment too… even if it’s going to be a $10 commitment for an $100 gig!

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before? Kindly share and let’s all learn how we can stop these leechers from taking our intellectual properties and make millions out of it for free!

Thanks

It’s your own decision if you do work for free so don’t complain about it.

Soon… we’ll all be working for free!

No, only ones who agree to do it, not the rest of us.

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These days, I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr…

Soon… we’ll all be working for free! Because those Bloody buyers will only take all the samples they get and send it over to the Original job owners and get paid Huge amounts of Money for doing absolutely Nothing!

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order. Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology. Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

I’ve had a very recent experience that is really making me MAD at myself and I have promised myself that I will never allow any buyer to do this to me again.

If you want to see a sample design… show commitment too… even if it’s going to be a $10 commitment for an $100 gig!

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before? Kindly share and let’s all learn how we can stop these leechers from taking our intellectual properties and make millions out of it for free!

Thanks

Soon… we’ll all be working for free!

Pfft. Never going to happen. I, for one, will not work for free. My skills, 15 years of experience (doing what I do), and my unique insight are worth much more than 0$. 😉

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My sister is also a freelance designer and she learned the hard way to never ever provide anything for free, because even a sample takes time that you could be using to work on a paid project. The live portfolio is available for free, if they want to see more then they should be ready to pay. A good client will know this is how business works.

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I have the impression there are lots of scammers out there in the freelance platforms during the last few weeks. Very strange, they are everywhere! I wonder what the CEOs of freelancing sites will do about it.

It’s nothing to do with the CEO of Fiverr or anywhere else.

If you’re being asked by non-buyers to do free work, you’re the only one who’s at fault if you agree to it. Nobody’s forcing you to do it, nobody can give you a bad review if you say no (because they haven’t bought anything).

Just say no! ☀️

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I’ve never had bad experiences like that because I’m protected by:

  1. My firm belief that all people are pieces of [guess] until proven otherwise. Therefore - I never give anyone undeserved benefit of the doubt.
  2. Great respect for my time, work, and attention.
  3. Disdain for time wasting and dealing with idiots.
  4. Reasonable intelligence.

So in a nutshell - no. Feudal slavery has ended centuries ago and anyone trying to blackmail me into doing free work, with any technique, including but not limited to: promise of future reward, threat of a bad review, pleading, begging or “inquiring to see how good are my skills before placing a huge order” will encounter:

  1. Ignoring.
  2. Firm "I’m a professional and I’ll only do this for [$price]
  3. Ridicule

Depending on my mood.

Therefore, to answer your questions - no, I’ve never had them. And I don’t consider them a problem as individuals have been taking advantage of the weak (physically and mentally) since the dawn of time.

Nothing new on Fiverr. Nothing new under the Sun.

It’s up to you how you’ll react to it and let it affect you.

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Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

This is very true ! 😥

Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

This is the reason they are supposed to place an order before you do the job.

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It’s nothing to do with the CEO of Fiverr or anywhere else.

If you’re being asked by non-buyers to do free work, you’re the only one who’s at fault if you agree to it. Nobody’s forcing you to do it, nobody can give you a bad review if you say no (because they haven’t bought anything).

Just say no! ☀️

This is not about looking smarter than anyone else and arguing about safety, but it is about using common sense. I have been in marketplaces that let me know when someone is a scammer. They learn the scammers tricks, and they act upon it with the help of technology. Of course, scammers will always try to smart out programming that catches them. So, yes, senior management has to do something about it. Some already have! Thanks.

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This is not about looking smarter than anyone else and arguing about safety, but it is about using common sense. I have been in marketplaces that let me know when someone is a scammer. They learn the scammers tricks, and they act upon it with the help of technology. Of course, scammers will always try to smart out programming that catches them. So, yes, senior management has to do something about it. Some already have! Thanks.

This is not about looking smarter than anyone else and arguing about safety

I’m sorry - I don’t know what you mean by this, but I do agree with you about using common sense.

Common sense dictates if somebody asks for/demands work for nothing, you say no. Can’t see a problem with that.

The problems start when people say yes and give work away for nothing - if everyone were to do that then we would all be working for nothing.

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if anyone will do this, this will be against TRS. So i believe this is impossible.
But sometime to promote profile we work at very low price

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Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology.

They are only buyers if they actually buy.

Why waste several hours? Just tell them that you don’t offer free custom samples, and that they need to place the order. You can also mention that Fiverr strongly advises sellers never to start working until an actual order is placed. If they keep trying to convince you, just ignore them.

Exactly! i Agree with you.I always inform and make buyers understand that Doing an sample and doing the real thing doesn technically mean anything different to each other.most buyers do understand.some dont and they just become silent. 🙂

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They are only buyers if they actually buy.

No one asking for free work will ever convert into a buyer

trying to get something for nothing from the other is always going to end badly,

and I don’t work for free

Hum, is there a common theme, here?!? :thinking:

I buy tons of articles/writing gigs and a good amount of proofing gigs with a dabbling of other things. I have never asked for a free sample.

If I want to “test” a seller, I order a $5 gig.

I have never asked for a free sample.

Nobody asked me for free work but YES sometime clients says “this is educational or welfare project and we are in tight budget” but not like Do it for free.

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These days, I keep seeing buyers request saying “you must work first before they can order from you!” The Freelancing ideology is moving into fiverr…

Soon… we’ll all be working for free! Because those Bloody buyers will only take all the samples they get and send it over to the Original job owners and get paid Huge amounts of Money for doing absolutely Nothing!

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order. Even after several hours of trying to convince these set of buyers, they still insist on their ideology. Then after you take over 24 hours to brainstorm and make them a great design, they just Ghost you after receiving the work.

I’ve had a very recent experience that is really making me MAD at myself and I have promised myself that I will never allow any buyer to do this to me again.

If you want to see a sample design… show commitment too… even if it’s going to be a $10 commitment for an $100 gig!

Have you had any BAD Experience like this before? Kindly share and let’s all learn how we can stop these leechers from taking our intellectual properties and make millions out of it for free!

Thanks

I’ve personally worked for several buyers like this that would first request for you to design before they will place an order.

Your mistake. You assumed that by working for free, you would get an order.

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I have never asked for a free sample.

Nobody asked me for free work but YES sometime clients says “this is educational or welfare project and we are in tight budget” but not like Do it for free.

sometime clients says “this is educational or welfare project and we are in tight budget” but not like Do it for free.

Then you charge them $5, $10, or $50. If they need it, they will pay. Think the Red Cross gets everything for free? They pay for gasoline, electricity, etc. When an advertising agency does pro-bono work for them, the agreement is that the work will be very creative so the agency has a chance at winning an award.

However, we can’t afford to work pro-bono, this is Fiverr, not Freeverr, so we all need to get paid something.

Sellers need to stop thinking that the customer is king. You are not slaves, you can refuse to work for any reason. Even Fiverr gave you a response to decline orders, so use it. Or respond with a custom offer.

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