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With all that knowledge, what are you still doing here?

Before anyone goes and gets all hyped up and spazzy, know that this is a question out of genuine interest and not at all meant to be insulting.

I will start by saying that I am trying to start my own virtual assistant business. There are several ways that Fiverr puts a stranglehold on my productivity and I would like to work in a way that isn’t so unnecessarily restricted. However, I don’t know how to make myself an overnight sensation so in the meantime I’m still working like crazy on Fiverr half the time and spending the other half starting my business. This is why I am still here.

On Fiverr there are countless people offering tips or services to better your business. Whether it’s SEO, advertising, marketing strategies, business advice/counsel and so on, there are thousands that market the secret to success in their opinions. It seems to me that if you truly had the skills to succeed, you would have helped yourself first. That’s what I would do.

That’s not to say you can’t be a successful Fiverr seller but in my opinion there is Fiverr success and then there is just plain success. It reminds me of how my mom says that there is a big difference between being told “you’re pretty for your age” verses just being called “pretty”. Both people are a success but just at different calibers. A TRS is Fiverr successful whereas the CEO and founder of Fiverr is just plain successful. See what I mean?

To me, if you truly have the skills to go the distance and you could choose Fiverr successful or straight up successful, the choice would be easy.

There are some Sellers claiming they can give you the keys to success but are completely full of it and then there are those who truly know what they are doing. My question is to those people who have the honest business smarts to become successful but have chosen to stop at Fiverr successful instead of going all the way. Why? Why are you peddling on Fiverr instead of taking your skills to the big leagues?

This question had plagued me to the point of avoiding purchasing these types of services (even though I could use some guidance) because I don’t understand the motives of those offering the service.

Anyone else ever wondered? Just curious :slight_smile:

Reply to @safwan: I think you are missing what my point is though. Marketing & Business consultants with the real skills to provide someone the necessary tools for success make major money doing just that. If they have those skills and are the real deal, they don’t stay on sites like Fiverr giving away 20% of their profit. No, they go out on their own or work at firms that are specific to their expertise. This is factual, ask Donald Trump, you don’t see him on Fiverr. My point is that Fiverr is an excellent stepping stone or a part time job but it’s not the pinnacle of success (unless your the ceo).

It’s just not logical for someone with all the abilities necessary to rocket someone else’s business to the next level, to not first do that for themselves. If you can make someone else a great success then why wouldn’t you have already done that for yourself?

Most of us are good at something but we haven’t quite figured out all the necessary elements to making that thing we are really good at our only support system. Generally the things we are missing is some type of business savvy, self promoting, technological component. For those on Fiverr claiming to have all those skills but hasn’t yet used them for their own success… Smells a little fishy.

I am here to teach and help people who are interested in starting their own business. I want to help entrepreneurs start their business, provide them with documentation they will require to start off, provide them with guidance and expertise as I am a marketing and business development consultant.

Reply to @joethorn: Yes it’s still virtual assisting. I actually enjoy the work (hard to believe lol). I would have been satisfied to stay with Fiverr longer but there is one issue that has really held me back on Fiverr. The complete lack of seller protection. I refuse to do any jobs of substantial size and value because I don’t want to risk the buyer not paying up or customer support canceling the order without explanation. Some say that the risk is not just on Fiverr but I disagree. I think that it’s possible to have a lot more control than Fiverr allows sellers to have. For instance, I started working with a company that verifies all transactions in seconds of the order being placed and will ensure I receive payments. They will compensate me in case of fraudulent transactions totaling $50,000 for free! I’m tired of saying no to all the high profiting jobs because I’m scared of working for free. Also I want to be able to call and email my clients if I need to. However it’s hard starting on your own, so now I’m half here and half there.

Reply to @krisztinarudnay: I’m calm, I just find it irritating when people respond to a post without reading past the title. I was prepared for it though, hence why I was making fun of the people who are always offended by everything for no reason. I knew it was only a matter if time before such an individual came around.

Reply to @missashley8705: It seems the only one who is not calm is you Dear :slight_smile:

Because Fiverr gives tons of customers and buyers for us. Try to put your work offer on a new domain or your website. I bet you won’t get any orders in the first 1 or 2 years. That’s why.

You know how the old saying goes: 'Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.'

I think Fiverr is full of two types of successful sellers. Those who are trying to find a platform for their services, and those who charge a lot more than $5 for their best work. A lot of what’s in between is mostly garbage. (Though not always, don’t shoot me!)

Nobody can get you to page 1 on Google for 5 bucks, nor increase your sales. What you can get though is some advice here and there, and a little help from writers, virtual assistants, and programmers to make your business work better.

You’d be pushed to find a Gig that was incredibly valuable to your SEO on Fiverr for $5. Or that was great advertising, etc. Everything’s usually a flash in the pan, doesn’t work, harmful, or it costs more. Occasionally you can stumble across something worth more than you pay, but I’d say the number of Gigs just looking to make a quick 5 bucks for a simple service done with a bot or by using a pre-written e-book is HUGE.

A man once promised to double my money for a fee. ‘Double your own money and keep all of it’ I said to the man.

I’m glad you both seem to understand what I’m saying. I was a little frightened that someone would read this and fly off the handle at me about how amazing they are and how dare I call them a loser and say such hateful things about their mother (I’m exaggerating obviously based on the way some people irrationally translate posts to mean something offense even though it’s not).

@joethorn you have said exactly what I think also. These services can’t be as career altering as they claim, otherwise they wouldn’t be here. Even if it was simply great advice, business advice is a billion dollar industry on its own. If your advice could be the difference between success and failure, you could make a whole heck of a lot more than a gig or two for it.

I’m a virtual assistant and I think I’m a pretty good one. So far my customers seem to agree. Assisting is my skill and you better believe that every skill I have is used to benefit myself first and then my clients. That probably sounds selfish but it’s true.

In my opinion, Fiverr is basically a stepping stone on the road to real success (if that’s your ultimate goal anyway), otherwise it’s just something to do on the side.

Exposure…there are not too many places that gets the traffic and exposure that fiverr gets. That’s a biggie.

I think everyone needs to start somewhere.

Fiverr is a great place to do it. No one can deny that being in business for oneself is the ideal. There are drawbacks of course, you’ll have to run your own business and take all of the accompanying risks. There are perks (zero commissions, anyone? No two week waits for payments.) In my case, I’m a writer and I make a living self-publishing and ghostwriting on Fiverr. So, I guess I’m a combination of both. The obvious benefit, like steveeyes said, is exposure and having an easy platform to market your services.

Reply to @kjblynx: Hahahahaha I’m sorry miss kjblynx, you caught me! Give my apologies to your dear mother. I didn’t mean it! :wink:

I totally agree with the exposure part. The nature of my work promotes “regulars” and I have quite a few of those. I’m pretty certain they will follow wherever my services go so that’s good. Again I understand the exposure and the total benefits of fiverr, that’s why I’m still here, plus I heart the forum and I love talking to you all (oh stop your going to make me cry =(( =(( =(( ).

It’s not Fiverr sellers in general that I don’t understand, it’s specifically those who advertise services that make a business or a site successful. I just feel that if that’s true, they wouldn’t need to be here. Know what I mean jellybean?

It’s pretty simple. Exposure. I think someone said that before.

I earn around $1.8k-$3k a month on here. Being that was meant to be a part-time ‘fling’, I’m pretty happy. I’ve had clients ‘slag off’ the idea of a $5 deal when I refuse to do more than my gig is worth and I remind then that I have a business outside of Fiverr (after they launch into their usual tirade of ‘you must be desperate to offer services on here’). My simple reaction is - 'you must be desperate to try and find services one here?'

Neither case is true.

Fiverr (regardless of the monetary value) is offering a simple service that fills a gap in todays market. I’m very impressed by the model if truth be told. Why use a multi million pound/dollar design agency when you can get great results here? (I’m only saying that as a fair few of my clients here have been pretty hight brow so it’s clear the tide is turning).

It is more the fact that platforms like this are the way forward. I’ve worked for design agencies/promotional companies as well as having my own businesses throughout the years and the natural progression actually hints at working within a platform such as Fiverr, rather that the other way around.

You’ll be a fool to bite the hand that feeds you - find that platou in life that you’re happy living from… it took me 20 years to realise I was chasing the dollar/pound that would never be enough for me to relax and realise enough is enough. My daughter taught me what life is all about in 5 seconds of her being alive.

"With all that knowledge, what are you still doing here?"

Chilling. Enjoying life. Doing what is right. :slight_smile:

Reply to @artworkking:

I don’t think she was referring to those selling their skills on Fiverr. It’s pretty obvious exposure is their reason for doing so. Like myself.

I think she was referring to the so-called ‘gurus’ on here who claim to get you top SEO rankings, a million converting Twitter followers or advertise your product on their site to make you thousands.

I cannot stand “Those who can’t do, teach”. If you have no idea how to do, you can’t teach it. Incredible minds and skills who are leaders in their field teach at universities. Unless you can prove through study and/or trade experience that you’re able to “do” you are not granted the qualification to teach. I wouldn’t go so far on a tangent, but that one has always grounds my gears.

I would never call someone unaffiliated with school selling knowledge over the internet (that we can only take their word for that they have) a teacher. Tutor maybe, but those gigs mostly fall more under the category of “some guy selling an e-book he ripped from somewhere”.

Reply to @joethorn & @artworkking: Thank you Joe, you’re exactly right. I’m not questioning the motives of every seller. That would be a bit foolish considering I’m a seller too. My comment is directed specifically to those that Joe mentioned… The Business Magicians. “I can revolutionize your business… But not my own” not too convincing in my book.

I don’t even think this applies to every seller who has a business enhancement type gig. I think there are some people here with serious SEO skills who can help Fiverr buyer’s businesses. I think those sellers have also helped themselves but chose to stay on Fiverr in addition to their other ventures. I can only assume it’s for the networking and exposure they receive on here.

This post is about those who offer to do for you what they obviously haven’t done for themselves. The best billboard for your business is you. Think of it like an overweight personal trainer. A mental patient offering counseling services. Someone without a license teaching drivers ed. All of these scenarios make no sense. Just like someone who has no successful business selling tips on how to have a successful business.

Reply to @inkpetal: Exactly! The world needs teachers, but the best teachers teach for the simple love of teaching not for the lack of ability to do anything else. Maybe it would be safer to say that “those who are afraid to do it, teach about it” lol because let’s be honest, talking about taking action is much easier than actually doing something.

Reply to @inkpetal:

The best teachers, like uni teachers, are usually still involved in the doing, just at a more passive level.

The ones to watch out for are those who teach without any evidence they’ve done what it is they’re teaching.