Fiverr Forum

You Work For Fiverr


#1

I started on Fiverr four years ago with no expectations. I had very little hope that it would amount to anything more than a hill of beans. However, I was proven wrong, and I am grateful for the platform and what it allows me to do: write and be creative while helping others. But, what I have come to realize over the years is that you and I work for Fiverr, not ourselves as so many of us think. Let me provide some solid examples.

  1. It is an algorithm rat race. To get and maintain any kind of income stream here you have to get work. Plain and simple. The more orders or the larger price of your orders, the more you make. In order to do this, you have to apply to the buyer requirements, reply to messages fast, deliver on time and have high-quality reviews. This is the system Fiverr set up for you and me to stay in their good graces and maintain a good influx of orders and clients. Mess up in any one area the algorithms deem important, and you standing and order amounts fluctuate. Thus, you are running a rat race to keep up with an algorithm.

  2. You are dispensible it’s its not your fault. How many times have you seen someone post about their account or gig getting taken away? Over my 4 years, I have seen many TRS and seasoned veterans loose accounts. I have lost Gigs and know others who have as well. And it is at the whim of someone else within the Fiverr system to decide if you lose your Gig or account - even if the circumstances seem shady. At any minute, you could lose all you worked for because of a word you use, an interaction with a customer, or some oddity. You are dispensable here. And Fiverr controls your outcome.

These are just two examples. But, if you think about it, Fiverr makes the rules. If you follow the rules and play their game, along with other important skills you can do well. However, if you break a rule, you can lose it all. There is no way around this. Ask yourself, have you kept your green light on to get more orders? Have you rushed to reply to messages for a quick response rate? Have you canceled orders to avoid bad review? Have you avoided or given in to difficult clients to avoid cancellations? If you answered yes to any, you can clearly see you work for Fiverr.

My suggestion - do not put all your egss in the Fiverr basket. Find other ways to earn. Because like any company you work for, the winds of change can blow in at any time and leave you in the cold.

Charles


#2

I understand what you mean but this could confuse some sellers. To clarify the language and legal status (for other readers) we are not employees of Fiverr. We are independent contractors with a contractual agreement on a freelance platform.

This is sound advice.


#3

Good post. I totally agree that we should be striving as freelancers to find and cultivate multiple streams of income. That way if something on Fiverr goes sideways, we are not left without any other income coming in. I love the Fiverr platform, but it is not a perfect system. In my opinion, neither is working for someone else. With Fiverr we have the freedom to do other work outside of Fiverr. My current day job employer doesn’t like it’s employees having other jobs. I hope to replace my current full time employer eventually. With Fiverr and also finding work on other platforms and marketing direct to potential customers, I now stand a chance at not being completely dependent on any, “boss” except for me.


#4

Thank you for your good post.


#5

This is very helpful post. Thank you


#6

This is the best logical advice I have seen in a long while.
Thanks poet


#7

I agree. This is a great platform. But it is someone else’s platform. We are to obey their rules. It sucks your full time job does frown on this. I read an article today about people walking away from jobs because they did not allow side hustles. Charles


#8

Glad to hear that. Charles


#9

You are welcome. Charles


#10

Good clarification. In the formal sense, we are not employees. In a figurative sense we are.


#11

Unless you are an employee of Fiverr, with an hourly or salary, benefits like insurance, etc, then you don’t work for Fiverr. You work ON Fiverr, at their discretion, their terms, their rules.

Yes, the algorithm is a killer, you can go from first row to page 10, you can disappear if you change prices, that’s just how it is.

How do you think I feel as a level 0? There are 795 new sellers I’m competing with, 146 level 1’s, 82 level 2’s, and 2 TRS’s.

I don’t know any TRS’s that lost their accounts. TRS’s demoted I know plenty. Getting demoted sucks, but what can one do? Nothing is ever permanent, Kingdoms rise and fall as they say.

What Fiverr allows today, might be disallowed tomorrow. Think of all the people that were making money with their book review gigs, were are they now? Most are probably on other sites.

Easier said than done. Not everyone is versatile, some of us are only good doing one thing, and when that one thing is no longer paying, we’re supposed to reinvent ourselves.


#12

This is true of any type of income on the internet, not just fiverr.

No matter what platform you are on, or even if you have your own site, you can one day suddenly have the income flow stop, permanently.


#13

Of course. But this forum is for Fiverr, so I am addressing that.


#14

Well while this forum is for fiverr, fiverr is a website. And as such it has something in common with all other websites, namely that is is based on and dependent on algorithm, and it’s possible to lose your source of income suddenly through no fault of your own.

So while you can get upset that it’s possible to lose your income suddenly, due to the capriciousness of an algorithm, this is the nature of working on the internet. Why blame fiverr? Algorithms and no security for your income is just the way the internet works.

Everything on the internet is an algorithm rat race. So the answer would be to stop trying to earn money on the internet.

If you drive a car, you could be complaining that cars cost a lot of money to maintain, and can get into wrecks where you can be injured or killed, so therefore you don’t like driving a car. The answer might be to stop driving a car. This is because ANY car can have expenses and get into accidents. It’s the nature and peril of driving. It’s not the fault of that particular car you happen to be driving. You won’t find any car that is 100% maintenance and accident free.


#15

I would agree with others here.
Fiverr is a marketing platform that provides you leads, it’s not your employer. By the same logic I work for Google because my website is searchable in Google and my ranking depends on their algorithm :slight_smile:
One day I’m in the top 10, the next month I’m in top 20 and if I mess up I might get penalized.

I get what you’re trying to say, but I think the key takeaway is not to put all your time & effort on one platform.


#16

That’s a good analogy. Fiverr is a search engine with some basic rules to keep it running the best way possible for all concerned.


#17

That’s legit and sounds right.


#18

I think you missed the point. If you do not follow the Fiverr rules, you are going to suffer. Thus we must constantly being on out toes playing to their rules. We work for them.


#19

I am not complaining. I am informing. I see a lot of post about people making this their full time job. I watched a friend do it and got booted. Now she is scrambling to find a source of income. I think people need to realize that they do indeed work for the platform if they decide to sell through it, and be aware of the consequences of this employer.


#20

Life is full of rules whether we like it or not. We get punished (and perhaps suffer) when we break rules. That’s such a broad and sweeping statement you could make it about nearly anything unless you are playing Sims and doing as you please. (Well, even then the game has minimal rules. :smiley: )

No, we don’t. They didn’t hire us, we don’t get benefits, they aren’t responsible for helping us with our taxes, yada yada… We choose to work on the Fiverr platform or we choose not to. By choosing to you have to follow the rules.

This is good information and I’m not sure why it has to be an argument about working “for” Fiverr to make your point. @misscrystal is right, though. If your friend had worked for a real employer as her full-time job she could have been in the same position. I’ve been moved to another state for a real full-time job along with 19 other people and after 2 years the company terminated all 19 of us 2 years later. We walked out the same day with our desk items in cardboard boxes. At least on Fiverr I work in my own home office and I own my equipment. I can’t get “caught” working for another company during my lunch hour and get fired.

This part just isn’t true. We work ON a platform, we don’t work for Fiverr. Fiverr is not our employer. They don’t own our time or our equipment or even our ideas. We are freelancers. Newbies who talk about working on Fiverr full time do need to understand that this isn’t a secure job, but the last thing they need to be told is that they work for Fiverr since that sounds more secure to the average newbie. They need to understand that by choosing to work on the Fiverr platform they are responsible for finding buyers and making money. Fiverr won’t necessarily care about them as individuals like an employer might (and some do.) You are arguing two points that are opposites.